This
topic does not, or should not, have any bearing on your Salvation.
What
do we believe? Do we believe in the Apocrypha? Don't let
your imagination run too wild.
We
believe in the present compilation of scripture as delivered in the King
James 1611.
Yes,
that answer is loaded.
Keep
in mind that the New Testament represents the New Covenant with man.
The means of obtaining Salvation through Jesus Christ is recorded.
The
New Testament is the pinnacle on which our Salvation is found, recorded,
taught, and preached.
The
Old Testament is the foundation of History and Laws which are laid
before the New Testament.
The
rest is good study which every Minister should have tackled in depth so
as to give an authoritative answer to questions asked by Christians.
In
today's society, with access to the internet, the Apocrypha and other
writings are published, discussed, and encouraged. Ministers have
been caught off guard, totally unprepared to give a satisfactory answer
in a discussion with a Church member, leaning on what they have been
told by others, or by a professor.
The
Apocrypha
Can
you handle it?...
Everything
written in the Bible is True.
Remember
the Zeal Jesus had when he found the money changers in the Church.
He drove them out with a whip! It was necessary for this event to
occur in order to set an example, make a point, and to be recorded... that
Christians centuries would no that it is wrong to do business in the
Church! It was very important in order that it might be recorded.
It was very important to Jesus, enough so that with zeal, with anger, he
drove them out. Nothing else erupted the judgment of Jesus while on
earth.
This was an important
matter. It would set a precedence for Christians and Churches to
come. It was necessary to occur.
Q: How much more important
would it have been for Jesus to make the point with the Scriptures to set
a precedence of defiled Scriptures.
We
hold the Scriptures as Precious, Holy, and Inspired.
We
depend on every word.
The
Church is a location sanctified for worship, but we depend on the
Scriptures to teach us, to direct us, to provide the clear explanation of
our relationship with our God and how to repair it.
IF
Jesus were handed a scroll with an textual or interpretive error, would he
not have cast it to the ground, Stomped on it, Shredded it, in a Zealous
Scene, demanding the Pure Scriptures be put in his hand!
Would
this not have been a necessary event to have occurred to teach the people,
the disciples, and get recorded in the Scriptures for us to learn the
lesson!?
Even if such a corrupted
scroll were in another land. It would be necessary to expose and
denounce it with vehement zeal!
I
dare say that the temple was defiled and his reaction was a Holy reaction
as well as a necessary lesson for us!
As
I see it, the Scriptures are just as important and Holy, maybe More
important today than the Church building! I say this carefully as I
am not implying that the Church building is not Holy.
The
importance of the purity of the Scriptures for today... How necessary it
would have been should a tarnished, erred, fowled scroll been placed in
His hand, or even if one were within 1000 miles!
History
and documents have almost 100% shown that the LXX was the scroll he read
from and quoted from.
Funny
thing is it contained chapters and books within the scroll that today's
theologians claim are fowled. Some say pagan!, and perhaps they are!
Israel built a golden calf and worshiped it... that was pagan!
Maybe
the scroll was so big he did not get to those sections. Actually the LXX was a series of scrolls. The Bible was not just one roll,
therefore one can not assume that he held the Apocrypha, specifically.
Maybe
he was only handed a portion of the LXX, the portion that covered the law, and
these other segments were in separate scrolls.
There
are many authors out there that attack and condemn these writings and will
attack me for even bumping this subject.
Study
to show yourself approved. ( I dare say, study your Bible, and
authentic writings, staying away from modern theologians as much as
possible)
And
get rid of the rhetoric you received from man. Do your own
research. And council with your Pastor, IF, he is capable of studying the
subject separate from theology.
I
neither promote or condemn this portion of writings. Had they
existed during His time, as they did, in the towns He was in, there is no doubt in my mind that a Necessary event would have occurred to
teach us a lesson, and the translators of the pagan practice of including
these writings.
The
Bible might have included verses, in all three gospels, that would read
like this...
"And
on the Sabbath, Jesus went into the temple at _________ as was the
custom. When the prophets stood to read the laws of Moses, Jesus,
was troubled inside, knowing that the Holy Scriptures were in err for
containing pagan writings. He leaped from his pew, grabbed the
scrolls ripping them to shreds while giving a 30 minute discourse on the
purity of the Word. The Sanhedrims asked what authority he did such
an act, Jesus replied, I AM THE WORD"
Jesus
could never accept the Scriptures being in err. He was the Word that
had come down and dwelt amongst us.
This
would be one of the MOST IMPORTANT events and lessons Jesus had ever
taught.
In
all my studies, I come to this end... like it or not, Jesus never disputed
them, and OH!!!! how important it would have been to do so, IF they were
in err!
If
the fowled versions were in another land, hundreds of miles away, there
would be the necessity for an event to make known this err and cause
Christians to come to be aware and consider them hidden and pagan.
I've
headed into another topic but seem compelled to write on...
THE
KING JAMES VERSION, 1611 IS the best, most accurate translated copy of the
Holy Scriptures!!!!
Yes,
the manual printing presses through the years have been the cause of
typographical corrections.
But
here are a few FACTS!!!, Like it or not, and no matter what your Professors
have taught you!!!
1
The Translators were INSPIRED to perform the work.
2
The KJV was delivered to press in 1610
3
The stack of papers making up the KJV included 80 books of the Bible, not
66
4
80 is a number for new beginnings, as Revelations is the 80th book
5
66 is pretty close to the number of man referring to the mark of the beast
6
Everyone knows God does things in 3's
7
Why do we only have two parts to the Bible with 66 books
8
We'd have 3 parts with 80 books
9
The KJV came off the press in 1611 with 80 books
10
It underwent typographic press corrections over the first years
11 In 1880's the Foreign Bible Society was lobbied to remove the Apocrypha
12
In 1885, 275 years after translation, we dropped the third part going to 66 books
from 80
13
275 years after being delivered to the press
14
All Holy and Inspired Translators are now DEAD! It's been 275 years!
15
In 1885 this third part was officially removed
16
The Reformation was in the 1400's no need to wait 400 years to make
a statement
17
So for 400 years this third section was part of the Bible after the
Reformation
18
For 275 years it was part of the KJV
19
1800's was the age of Modern, thinking man, 1885 was the removal, 1881 was
the year of the Revised Version, ?any relationship?
20
All books from 1850 till now show a steady increase of the Thinking Man
21
Books going back from 1850 show real, black and white, right and wrong,
God fearing, devil hating authors
Since
God always does things in 3's, and 7 is Holy, 3x7 = 21, I'll
stop with these 21 study enticing points.
If
you condemn the Apocrypha as uninspired, then you are equally condemning
the KJV translators as uninspired heretics.
I
am a KJV ONLY Man. If you're KJV you might want to quit condemning
the translators as uninspired heretics for including this section.
There was an amazing process by which each books was translated and
reviewed. I'm not passing judgment that this 3rd segment was
inspired, but if we believe the translators to have been inspired in their
work, then we must consider that they were inspired to translate and
include this third section.
If
we are saying that this 3rd section is pagan and not inspired to be
included, then we are saying the translators are not inspired, and if they
are not inspired, why do we stand on this KJV translated by a bunch of
reprobates?
Oh,
contraire,... They were inspired, and some of the most learned and
studious men of they're time! Don't let anyone tell you different.
If you have not studied the background of the translators of Bible
versions, including the KJV, you better get on it. You will, no
doubt, finish with a thorough trust in the inspiration and qualifications
of these translators over any other addition EVER!
Quit
placing your thinking and beliefs on today's theologians and go back to
when they were REAL. Or better yet, go back to Jesus, this segment
had been translated in the LXX long before Jesus arrived in the flesh!
Yes,
I am familiar with the supposed 7 reasons for kicking out of the
canon. They were Catholic anyways, but the chiefest of reasons
include;
-
The
author does not claim to be inspired
-
Jesus
did not quote them
-
Apostles
did not quote them
-
Other
books do not refer to them
There
are many books in the Bible that the author does not claim to be inspired,
and that are not quoted by or referred to by other books, Apostles, or
Jesus.
Best
of all, there are Many, MANY, MANY books the Bible refers to that are not
included. Do some research sometime and you'll find the Book of
Jubilees, the Book of Jasher, and Lot's more! Unfortunately, these
books referred to in the Bible often are no longer in existence, or some
translation or variation or writing claiming the title, exists with
virtually no proof of it's ancient roots for a careful translation to be
done today.
But...
...They
did, and some do... exist.
I'd
welcome comments and suggestions on some of this but most who respond, do
so, with little or no real research. They respond with the words and
explanations of some other theologian or author.
Extreme
efforts were made in these paragraphs to speak simply without the wording
of a theologian, or whatever.
-
Black
and white, right and wrong.
-
Hell
is HOT, Heaven is NOT.
-
The
Lost go to Hell, the Saved go to Heaven.
-
The
LXX was around before Jesus was born and he never condemned it for having
the extra books.
-
The
KJV Translators wasted their valuable time and energy to translate a
portion of the Bible that you've discarded.
-
The KJV Translators are either
Inspired or Heretics... you choose!
I
promise you that virtually every book written against these writings has
been read and many websites as well. No matter how we twist and try
to prove, the Bible is Black and White, and Jesus always drew the
distinctive. He taught many lessons and did not have need of this one.
Q: Was
this lesson not important?
Q: Did
this lesson not exist because they were not flawed?
This article was written
as the internet has revealed, to many Christians, the existence and
various information surrounding these and other apocryphal books.
I personally, take a
completely neutral position, refusing to say that the KJV translators were
inspired in their work to translate the Bible into English, yet uninspired
heretics, succumbing to the will of the devil by including the books of
the Apocrypha. I will not promote or condemn, as I too am continuing
research and study in this and other matters, and expect various other
Fundamental Bible Believing Scholars to shed additional light on the
subject in the near future. (As soon as Scholar put their
certificates and degrees aside and dig into it with some common sense)
Study
and Enjoy,
-BroScott
